Okay...

[feren]

I can officially vomit in rage now. The idiot public has once again proven it needs to be nerve-gassed into the stone age as Karyn, of SaveKaryn.com fame has now been bailed out of her $20k self-incurred debt by donations she received thanks to her web site. That's right, people donated over $13,000 dollars to her.

Think about it. Only in America can a woman get herself $20k in debt by using her credit cards (from her FAQ: "I just couldn't stop buying things. It's as simple as that. I'm going to be honest here... I wasn't out saving the world. I was just at Bloomingdales") and then convince perfect strangers to save her from her own stupidity. Yet throughout our country there are thousands of children of all ages and races who are going hungry tonight, who can't afford warm clothes for this winter, who won't be able to get a college education.

My question is: where the fuck is their $13k in donations?

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[spoothbrush.livejournal.com]

Americans seem to love a fuckup, or at least fuckup who appears to be in recovery, remember? The guy who drank a quart of bourbon for lunch every day, spent his kids' savings on coke, knocked his wife down the stairs, and cheated with any skirt that flipped in his direction but then stopped it all and became a devoted family man and maybe (dare I say it?) found Jesus is gonna get all kinds of sympathy. The one who was a good guy all along gets fuck-all.

And I don't even *watch* talk shows.

[jenwolf.livejournal.com]

Hey, I should try that.

Grrrrrr....

[varro.livejournal.com]

And, of course, Karyn's view on bankruptcy:

It's like the bootleg CD theory. They are all over Manhattan, but you just shouldn't buy them. Because if you buy them, then you'll run up the cost of CDs in the future. It's like stealing. Someone's gonna pay, and it will be the consumer.

Well, unlike stealing, bankruptcy is not against the law. It's written *into* the law for situations like hers, although most of my clients are considering bankruptcy because of 1.) job loss, 2.) health problems, 3.) divorce, or combinations of the three.

Who's to say that Karyn won't try the same stunt again? If a consumer credit counseling service plan or Chapter 13 bankruptcy was unfeasible, then she SHOULD have filed Chapter 7. She'd acknowledge her inability to pay her debts and get a fresh start.

Instead, she's going to expect to be bailed out of other situations. And, like Feren said, there are thousands, perhaps millions of others being hounded by creditors who aren't perky like her, and whose debts are NOT dischargeable in bankruptcy. (For example, people with failed small businesses who owe a lot of money to the IRS.)

Re: Grrrrrr....

[genet.livejournal.com]

I'd really love it if someone would come along and pay MY debts. I can't file for bankruptcy because I don't want to ruin Roho's credit (he cosigned on my truck)... but some days... gah.

I'll be old and grey before I get MY debts paid off.

Re: Grrrrrr....

[feren.livejournal.com]

Trust me, the rabbit hole only gets deeper when you buy a house.

I must be farking insane.

Re: Grrrrrr....

[feren.livejournal.com]

[she SHOULD have filed Chapter 7. She'd acknowledge her inability to pay her debts and get a fresh start. ]

Ah, but if you read her page and do the math ($20k debt, $13k raised and now she's at zero debtload) she COULD pay her debts, and WAS doing so. I mean, ultimately since she begain this little endeavor she paid $7k off on her own. So it wasn't a matter of "inability to pay her debts." No, what it really was about was a matter of "ability to pay her debts in a time frame she deemed acceptable." She wanted expediency. In other words, she was a typical American. Just like she had to have those things at Bloomingdales NOW NOW NOW, she wanted to pay off her immense debtload NOW NOW NOW.

So she did the crime and then wanted to skip on doing the time, an attitude I find inexcusable because it completely sidesteps any lesson of personal responsability she might have learned. But, again... typical American.

[dustyfox.livejournal.com]

I hope she remembered to save some of that INCOME for the nice people at the IRS.

UGH!

After reading a little more of her page I just wanna smack her out of debt myself. One buck per smack.

*annoyed*

[feren.livejournal.com]

I've got twenty "smackers" right here for her. She just has to come and get 'em.

[kristenq.livejournal.com]

She doesn't deserve the cash. But that is rather smart, I must say.
Immoral, but a good idea. It got her out of debt, didn't it?
Can you really call her the stupid one, all said and done? These guys are the ones who donated this cash to her, KNOWING she was at fault for getting herself into debt.

And you realize she's traded her debt for public humiliation, right? To me, alls fair. She'll be known for this site for the rest of her life. She's marked.

[kristenq.livejournal.com]

PS, I know girls who strip on their webcam for cash (http://www.camwhores.com) and call it art. You wouldn't believe how much they make in tips [donations] a day. At least this broad knows she did this to herself, and what it is.

[passaddhi.livejournal.com]

Alright, give it a test -- create a site, ask for donations so you can buy a house, give a sob story, and even be honest that it's all fake.

You'll still make a million.

[feren.livejournal.com]

RM, you know that having said such a thing I'm actually going to have to try it now, don't you?